Episode 50: Pain w/Zoe Bee – How Does Politics Paint our Perspective on Pain?

In this episode, we have the amazing Zoe Bee on to discuss the idea of Pain, focusing on how political stances view and address it. We concisely define pain as: physical and mental suffering.

You can find more of Zoe Bee at her Youtube channel or Twitter.


  • Zoe Bee’s Channel
  • Zoe Bee’s video on Pain that prompted this discussion
  • Eustress: beneficial stress—either psychological, physical (e.g., exercise), or biochemical/radiological (hormesis)
  • Hobbes: best known for his 1651 book Leviathan, in which he expounds an influential formulation of social contract theory.
  • Rousseau: For him, traditional educational institutions corrupt man and take away his freedom.
  • Zoe’s Video on (White) Trash Food
  • Jak and Daxter (Game): an action-adventure video game franchise created by Andy Gavin and Jason Rubin and owned by Sony Interactive Entertainment.
  • 80% of ticket sales in the box office are Disney (probably fluctuates up and down, but the point remains)
  • Zoe’s Video on “Nothing”
  • Thomas Ligotti – an American horror writer. His writings are rooted in several literary genres – most prominently weird fiction – and have been described by critics as works of philosophical horror, often formed into short stories and novellas in the tradition of gothic fiction.
  • Happiness (1998 movie) – Warning: disturbing af
  • The Night House (2020 psychological horror) – Phil liked it, but the ending was divisive for fans of horror.
  • Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022 Film) – Amazing, watch it without knowing anything.
  • A Song of Fire and Ice: a series of epic fantasy novels by the American novelist and screenwriter George R. R. Martin. He began the first volume of the series, A Game of Thrones, in 1991, and it was published in 1996.
  • Grimdark (genre):  a subgenre of speculative fiction with a tone, style, or setting that is particularly dystopian, amoral, and violent.
  • Zoe’s Video “Realism is Bad, Actually
  • Ethnic Enclaves: a geographic area with high ethnic concentration, characteristic cultural identity, and economic activity.
  • Moral Panic: a widespread feeling of fear, often an irrational one, that some evil person or thing threatens the values, interests, or well-being of a community or society.
  • Jonathan Haidt: an American social psychologist, Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University Stern School of Business, and author. His main areas of study are the psychology of morality and moral emotions.
  • Virtue Signaling: the expression of a moral viewpoint with the intent of communicating good character.
  • Free Riding: a type of market failure that occurs when those who benefit from resources, public goods (such as public roads or public library), or services of a communal nature do not pay for them or under-pay.
  • Capitalist Realism: Capitalist realism […] cannot be confined to art or to the quasi-propagandistic way in which advertising functions. It is more like a pervasive atmosphere, conditioning not only the production of culture but also the regulation of work and education, and acting as a kind of invisible barrier constraining thought and action.

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